Position marker (arrow) on the bottom.

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    Scott Crawford

    So...show less of where you’ve been and more of where you are going. Makes sense

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    Krzysiek

    Exactly, it was hard for me to describe this in English, You get the point.

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    Akhil

    Hey Krzysiek,

    This is indeed very interesting :) I will ensure to have this discussed with my product team as an improvement to maps and navigation experience :) Based on the popularity of the request it will be prioritized into development.

     

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    Ivo Smolis

    I also agree this would be useful and more "logical" to give us more info about the route in front of us, not the past one

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    Krzysiek

    Ivo Please click arrow up on first post to prioritize This matter. Thanks

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    Ivo Smolis

    Yeah I already did that ;)

     

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    Toni Thenhausen

    +1

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    Krzysiek

    Thanks Toni for vote!

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    Toni Thenhausen

    Maybe add an option to specify the position in % of the vertical screen space.

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    Christian

    +1

    I said to myself that also on sunday. When you come too fast, it's hard to follow.

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    Michiel

    +1 indeed!

    It took me a while to figure out what's "wrong" with the in-ride map view on the Karoo 2. I kept having to zoom in/out, while on my trusty old Wahoo Bolt with tiny monochrome screen I hardly needed to zoom at all.
    Even when using a map with a single row of data fields on top (which causes a huge waste of display space, but that's another topic) I keep struggling with the zoom level.

    This is really caused by the inefficient centering method of the map. While navigating there is no need to have the map centered. Using 50% of the screen to display the route you have already travelled does not make sense. It should be ~80/20 so the majority of the map will display the oncoming route.

    Somewhat offtopic, but changing the map to (a bit more) 3D also makes a difference as this allows you to see more of the oncoming route. I'm wondering if a lot of people are aware of this function, because who reads the manual / help 😁
    https://support.hammerhead.io/hc/en-us/articles/360051609833-Map-in-3D-View

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    Ivo Smolis

    Remember that 3D view uses more battery juice probably

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    Yves Sabourin

    +1

    Would be a very good enhancement.

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    tricki

    +1 Agree this would be sensible and is a feature on Locus Maps that is helpful when navigating.

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    Benno Zwanenburg

    I agree but the downside of a lower arrow position is if you're riding on a Strava segment; This windows swipes up from bottom and will cover the arrow and so you can't see where to go.

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    Richard Hackens

    Came to the forum to ask for this. Glad the topic already exists. Awesome if implemented soon

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    Dr3am3r

    +1

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    Richard Soltes

    Screen centering helps me to orient, which I find useful. I do my own route finding.

    Also button overlap and bottom sourced "popup" things like Lap and Radar confound the use of the touch screen areas, making use when in motion difficult.  If I have to stop to use the Map, I would rather use my phone, as it is all around better.

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    Benno Zwanenburg

    Agree with Richard. It’s fixed in one of the latest updates but only if you place the map above datafields. If you place the map at the bottom the arrow still has the same place as before.

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    Dan Klaussen

    I sure wish the in-ride route arrow on the Karoo2 was like what they show in their marketing materials for this Karoo 1

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    Andreas Boiselle

    Hi Hammerhead, I want to support this older request and ask for the status. Up to date the position of the arrow is still pretty close to the middle. This means the lower part of the screen is lost useless for navigation.
    Especially when you add some datafields to the map-screen, you don't see a lot of route-line anymore.

    If there is any reason why HH wants this position, it would be nice if you could at least build in an option in the settings to move it down.
    Thanks and greets, Andreas

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    Anna Ronkainen

    For north-is-up map orientation, I find that the arrow is too far *down* on the screen as it is, especially in the map view with 4 data fields... The position of the arrow should definitely be different for the two different orientation options.

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    Richard Soltes

    There are different uses for the map.

    Orientation

    Route following

    Centered , for me is good for #1. I do my own routing mostly, but I can see how for #2 and in smaller screen views folks would like it at the bottom. That's why for routing I do a separate full screen view. I'm not sure how bottom location arrow would move with screen rotation .

    If I have to get oriented, I  use a big screen, or stop, or use a Cell phone.  I don't see doing it while riding as a safe thing.

    I still think a Zoom and a long video tutorial on the map, GPS and routing would be a good thing.

    The info on use is fragmented, scattered and hard to know if the pieces are uptodate

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    Andreas Boiselle

    Hi Hammerhead,

    this post is marked as answered but since one year no feedback or improvement on this. I just created an example how much better a (optional) lower arrow position would be for navigation:

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    Benno Zwanenburg

    The marker is placed lower about a year ago and this position is really nice. If it should be lowered more like your example you can’t see where you came from and especially with mountainbiking you need that when you’re ‘lost’.

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    Richard Hackens

    Andreas, try switching the data fields to the bottom.
    I'm pretty happy with how it is now.

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    Andreas Boiselle

    Hi Richard, Benno, thanks for your reply. When switching the data fields to the bottom, the map moves up but the arrow position in the map stays the same, so no improvement for my needs.

    As Benno mentions, we all have different use cases. Benno seems to do a lot of MTB-Trailriding, for this usecase I agree (I also ride MTB from time to time).
    For other use cases, like navigation on road tours I'm more interested in what comes ahead than what was behind me.

    To meet all our riders needs in different situations my suggestion therefore is to have the very simple option to change the position in the settings or per profile (and not generally chance it).

    Would you agree on that?

    Cheers Andreas

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    Julia

    Hello,

    I agree with the request :-) Such a nice big display which is half wasted when the cursor sits in the center.

    Please give us at least the option to move the rider-position-arrow to the lower edge of the map.

    --> "See the road ahead" :-)

     

     

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    Andreas Boiselle

    Hi Julia, yeah right you are "see the road ahead" :-) :-) :-)

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    Richard Soltes

    For orientation, though, knowing what you passed, can be reassuring and help confirm location.

    Sometimes the "landmarks" are not as expected, or streets not well labeled.

     

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