New Average data Animations

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    Doug H (dthempel)

    "What would make this useful is to see the current speed, power (3s avg), or cadence to know if that is above or below the average. That would make this feature actually useful. I don't want to see if my average power is increasing while looking at my average power. I want to see my current power and see if that is above or below my average (same for speed, etc.)."

     

    At least one ATG member made this suggestion. I don't know if they got an answer...

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    Jeremy

    Perhaps HH keeps this application for average data the same, and then add these graphics for current speed, power, and cadence (to appease those who would like to see the data relative to average a different way).

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    Steve Hammatt

    Seems like yet another feature designed by someone who has seemingly never used a bike computer before ...

     

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    Jeremy

    One doesn't need to ride a bike or have used a bike computer to know that field wouldn't be useful the way it was executed; you just need to know how to do math. The longer you ride, the more data your computer collects, the more the average data point becomes smoothed, and the less additional data will move that average data point. Ever look at the average speed on your car's trip computer that you haven't reset in a while? It doesn't move all that much.

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    Ali

    Hey All - the intention to make Karoo more interactive with users.
    @Doug - we have passed on the suggestion from ATG user to the software team to implement the animation on current speed/Power/cadence.

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    Steve Hammatt

    Ali - we appreciate that HH are trying to give us useful new features. But a lot of us wonder who comes up with this sort of stuff - as Jeremy quite rightly points out, you don't need to even by a cyclist to know that an average field changes less and less as time goes on, so a higher/lower thing would be a lot more useful on a variant of a current speed field, not showing the actual average.

    This sort of thing makes it look like HH don't have a clue what cyclists actually want, no matter how much we're told that Karoo is "designed by cyclists". Anyone who went on a medium to long ride with that new data field as it currently is would soon see that it's not useful. It shouldn't be up to the ATG to notice this sort of obvious issue.

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    Doug H (dthempel)

    I wouldn't go as far as to say it's not useful as-is, it's just not ideal and does beg the question of "who thought this up?". ATG members did point this out and noted that the indicator would be better as it related to current speed instead of an average of an average. If my average speed is 15 and I'm going 16, it should be green as it would be trending upwards, even really slowly depending on the length of the ride. I noted as much on my "preview" video as well as pointing out how improvements might be made to the graphic, particularly if it the data field is used full page. I've been told HH is watching these videos, so I don't always type up all my suggestions formally. Picture if worth a thousand words and all...

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    Tobias Beal

    +1 on this, have fed back via support requests too and have also been told it's being looked into

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    Steven Renders

    Completely agree with Steve Hammatt here. Who designs such solutions?

    Maybe in parallel to the ATG also have a 'forum' to review the designs...

    I volunteer with 17 years in the (very user oriented) software world ;-)

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