Live segments 100 limit update please

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    Ali

    Hi Robin, We definitely would love to see a possibility of more than 100 segments. One reason, this has not been the priority is, there aren't too many requests from the community. However, I would also like to inform you that this limit also applies to our competitors. So we do not have an immediate answer to it, as it requires investigation so we can prioritise. I have started a conversation with our product team and will update you here on the probability and a more definite anwer.

    One question that might help me would be, ideally how many segments would you like to see on the Karoo once starred.

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    Tim

    Doesn't the 1030 also have a 100 segment limit? https://support.strava.com/hc/en-us/articles/115001197484-Strava-Live-Segments-on-your-Garmin-Edge-1030

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    NewK

    For me it´s not that really working:

    Starred a already existing segmet and it showed up on the K2.
    But already starred segments still missing on the K2 when approaching them.
    Even when dismark and mark them again and synced in the SLS Options they are not shown in the list on the K2.

    Any suggestion?
    Thanks.

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    NewK

    I´ve dismarked the already existing segment now, restarted the K2, because:

    • Starred Segments are synced as soon as you turn on your Karoo 2. You only need to sync if you have recently starred any segments.

    aaaand it´s gone. Fine.
    But the already starred segments still not there.

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    Robin

    Thanks Ali, I currently have 205 starred segments in Strava so, if there has to be a limit then 300 would suit me.  I'd also be happy if you could download the first 100 by geographic proximity.  Can you comment on why Hammerhead can't just set it to say 1000?  Surely the device can handle it and if the vast majority of Karoo users have under 100 then it shouldn't represent a significant Strava API load?  E.g. does the number of segments downloaded impact the performance of the Karoo when searching for segment matches and/or calculating Live Segment displays?

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    Ali

    Robin, Thanks for letting me know of your requirements. As of now, it has been limited and couple of reason being Strava are very conservative with how much load we are allowed to place on their API because they support a lot of other head units doing the same thing. We also want to ensure everyone can use the Live Segment experience on Karoo, we have to enforce a cap at some value to distribute that API load across our growing user base.

    I have shared your requirements with the product team, and hopefully we will find some solution to your needs.

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    Neil Beddell

    I asked the same question when  live segments landed via ATG but wasn't really given a reason by it's limited to 100. I've reduced the number of segments I have starred but still have around 200. On a local 30km ride today only 2 segments popped up despite many more being shown on the map screen. I do like the live segments facility but it really doesn't work for me with the current limits.

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    Tim

    Not sure if you are looking for "me too" posts but I would also like to see this, it's a requirement for any device I would buy.

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    NewK

    Hello,

    right now I´ve starred/marked about 460 segments and was using the 1030 before I switched to the K2. With the 1030 there were no problems with all my starred segments. But when riding with my new K2 I was wondering why my starred segments does not appear along my way. So please set the limit waaay higher than 100. Why is it this low?
    Thank you.

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    NewK

    Oh,... interesting... didn't know and I didn't noticed that I miss some segments with the 1030 :-o

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    NewK

    @Tim + @Hammerhead-Support

    This weekend I´ve created some new segments in strava. I´ve marked/starred them and then synced the segments on my 1030. The new created segments were there (I´ve searched for them on the device). After this i jumped on my bike and when I arrived at (one of) them my 1030 gave me the information that this segment is near and it soon will start. All fine.

    I´ve also synced the segments with my K2. First, I miss the search option like on my 1030. When I choose "sync segments" there´s no way for me to see which segments has been added or deleted. So I have to scroll through all my starred segments. But can not find the new one I´ve created.


    The next thing that could be improved is that segments with longer names: the name of those segments are cut off after some letters so it´s hard to make a diffrence between similar named segments. Even when I open a starred segment the name is cutted off.

     

    Thank you.

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    Tim

    I believe that Garmin favours newly starred or newly created segments. So if you star something new it will take the place of some older segment in the 100 segments on the device.

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    NewK

    Ok, this could be possible. But is also horrible :-)

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    Olivier Caillard

    So i don’t know about how starred segments are sorted and selected when > 100 but i am using VeloViewer website for the gestion of the starred : you can see them on a map, sort them in almost anyways possible ... so i can make sure my selection is updated and satisfies my next ride(s), and that this selection stays below the 100 limit. As i have paid a subscription for VeloViewer i can’t assurd you this service would be free (some of them are) but i think it is worth have a look at it

     

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    Frank Kintrup

    Maybe we should ALL write to Strava about this most ridiculous limit? The Segments is one of the main reasons I became a Strava subscriber. If they take my money, they should deliver!
    There seem to some people that have more than 100 segments, but probably not too much, otherwise there would be more cries. And most of those above 100 will be well below 500 (I'm at 450 starred segments, though). Nobody can tell me that those few with 100 to 500 segments will dramatically increase the load on Stravas servers.

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    Dirk

    I'm in!! I totally agree with you!
    Shall we all use the same message?

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    Ali

    Hi All, after yesterday's software release you should be able to sync unlimited live segments on your Karoo.

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    Dirk

    Yeah! That's a great improvement! I will test it! Did anyone tested it already? Does it work?

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    MY

    Same here - after installing the most recent update starred segments over 100 refuse to show on K2! Please fix this asap as this is the single most important feature for your target audience. Wahoo have figured this out. Don't be like Garmin.

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    NewK

    "Don´t be like Garmin" 

    Hahah x-D

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