Disable rerouting
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PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE
make an option to turn rerouting off !!! Even if it would work abolut perfect, I dont want it or need it
It just makes stupid things and is no help
I ride a lot of events where it is not allowed to leave the track so an option to disable it would help a lot this red route on the display ist just terrible
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE TURN IT OFF
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Just found this conversation thread when searching for a way to turn off rerouting. As mentioned earlier, I am looking at extending battery life for all day rides and know rerouting is very cpu intensive. Noticed that when stopping for pit stop, rerouting will kick in and may reroute several times during a single store/rest stop. Would like to turn rerouting off but still have an indication when off course so I can choose to self correct or just keep going until I want to get back on track. For mountains, would like to be able to just have the route highlighted on the map but no feedback of being off route as GPS and road are often off enough that I hear the tones for being off and on route every few yards. When it gets that bad, I cancel route until I need it again. I think having the option to have the unit mark the route on the map without navigation would be very power efficient and for the mountains would provide the what I need without always being signaled off course and then back on course because of miss match of gps and road. If I could choose a menu?
1. Rerouting enabled (operates as it does now)
2. Prompt for rerouting (On this setting, rider would be notified of being off route and asked to reroute yes, no. Yes or no would display until option is selected or route is found again. If yes selected then rerouting is enable for this occurrence and if no, the unit does not reroute. And if the course is found again, then the next time the ride goes off course, the rider is again prompted yes or no to reroute.
3. Rerouting disabled. (Rider is notified that he is off route with sound and a banner that has to be marked as seen to remove it or get back on course will also remove it. No further off course notifications occur unless the route is found again and the rider goes off course again.)
4. Map route only (the route is highlighted on the map but no further navigation support provided, no directions, no off route notifications, nothing. It would be the electronic equivalent to holding a paper map with the route highlighted).
And since I am wishing, I would like to be able to get be able to change between these settings during a ride.
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I bought a Karoo 2 for backwoods gravel rides, but three times now, auto-rerouting has gotten me lost. If I miss a turn, Karoo tries to re-route automatically and it's not obvious that I'm on a new course until it's too late. One time, auto-reroute sent me a mile off course up a 300' 15% hill to a dead end so I could turn around! (A U-turn indicator would also be really helpful.) I our neck of the woods, automatic routing is often unreliable. Gates, washouts, hike-a-bike trails and U-turns will cause the computer to propose crazy routes and often the routing takes me on abandoned, non-existent or bicycle hostile roads. Please, please give us a way to turn it off! Just a big flashing "OFF COURSE" indicator would be fine.
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I have to agree with the comments above that I find it hard to believe that the ability to turn off navigation / rerouting and to just display the route on the map is not available. I do a lot of riding in areas where the map database isn't the most accurate (gravel roads in the middle of National Forests etc) and that coupled with GPS signal issues leading to position errors and the unit constantly trying to re-route while I am in the middle of the only road in a 5 mile radius. We should be able to set a tolerance for the off route threshold and be able to have the option to just display / overlay the route on the map screen. I know other Android apps have the ability to set the threshhold for off course warnings and other bike computers have the ability to only display a route, so not sure why they won't implement this, but am having a difficult time thinking of a technical reason.
I have been pretty happy with the Karoo and have had years of frustration with the Garmin units, but the fact that there have been posts about this going back years and no reply from Hammerhead other than "we can't promise a timeline" for more than a year has me seriously considering sending it back since I am almost to the end of my 45 day risk free trial.
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The inability to disable automatic rerouting is maddening. Was on a ride today and i missed a turn and didn't notice that I missed it. Next thing I know I'm 5 miles off course and way off my intended route. I don't understand why it's so flipping difficult to just let us disable this.
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the rerouting feature needs to be optional sooner than later. I just spent a pretty miserable ride with my wife as we tried to explore some new to us trails in maryland. It kept trying to send us back to the parking lot or find other ways to go because the trails had changed very slightly due to reroutes for trail damage or general changes that trails make. We have similar issues in Bentonville Arkansas where the trails are all very interwoven and it kept rerouting us back to the start or other options. If I'm off the general course all I want to know is where I am and where the planned route is.
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It is really annoying when the device is beeping its head off trying to reroute and I've just stopped at a cafe! And when riding if I do go off route accidentally I just want it to beep at me once and then I'll just turn around and get back onto the right track again. I do bit want rerouting at all. The device is really fantastic in so many ways but this is a glaring weakness right now.
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Upvoted. Please add this feature soon. I recently used routing on a mixed terrain/gravel ride and the rerouting feature was very annoying and I was getting the rerouting spinning circle even while I was back on the route after missing a turn. Having the option to disable it with just an "off route" notification displayed is very sorely needed.
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Another upvote. While this may be an edge case, I do a lot of Ride Every Road/Every Single Street/Wandrer riding. I plan out my routes in detail so that I hit every street in the most efficient route during a given ride. Rerouting means I miss streets without being aware that I've been routed away from my plan, forcing me to backtrack to pick them up. Not to mention having to pull out my phone to check my route in RWPGS to find out where I SHOULD be. While I love the bigger map on the K2 vs my 830, not to mention the faster and more predictable loading of routes, being unable to turn rerouting off is a showstopper for me that forces me back to my 830.
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Potentially this 'feature' means my new K2 will be going back to the seller (not even got it yet!) As an MTB rider it sounds like it makes the device unusable. Even my Garmin 530 has the choice to accept or refuse reroutes due to being slightly 'off route' - which seems inevitable for off road riding or imprecisely planned routes.
Does anyone know the 'off route tolerance' - ie how far can you go 'off route' before rerouting triggers? Maps aren't utterly accurate so being 20 metres away from a planned line is pretty common...
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Personally I'd push to keep it simple with a 'disable' function. For some reason, despite the evidence it's a problem there seems a resistance to change it - perhaps for technical reasons. To make things more complex might be allowing perfection to become the enemy of adequate (or progress) and we end up stuck with what's actually quite a big issue for off road use.
For me, a simple OFF button would suffice.
Dave
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105 comments over the past year on this issue. I’m going back to Garmin if this isn’t fixed before summer in North America. Erroneous rerouting is actively making riding my bike less enjoyable, especially off-road. There is no way rerouting will ever operate 100% logically or reliably on complex trail systems. So why force us to use it 100% of the time?
Additionally, the GPS accuracy of the device is so poor in the woods that I often get rerouted when I’m actually on the route; the device just doesn’t realize it.
Let us simply disable rerouting and choose to turn it on when needed. Again, this issue makes riding a bike while following a route completely frustrating. I ride bikes to have fun. This is not fun. This mandatory rerouting nonsense is the opposite of fun. Maybe fix this fundamental usability issue before you release more features? I don’t need to know the FTP of my right leg vs. my left.
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It will be simple and clean feature just to add a new option in settings where user can define distance from route in meters, when Karoo must initiate rerouting. No distraction with pop-ups during a ride.
If I ride through crowded city I will set 500 meters offset for rerouting. When I go to country ride, 50 meters will be good enough.
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As reverse route is not available on the Karoo2 itself, I thought I could just display the route I loaded and ride it the other direction, but the rerouting was that kind of nerving and and annoying, that I paused my ride, created a reverse route in Komoot on my mobile ( cause the reverse route option in the Hammerhead dashboard always modifies the original route (maybe KI thinks to know better what I'm able to ride .. )) exported the gpx file and uploaded it in the dashboard, then created a WLAN Hotspot on my mobile which I then used on the Karoo2 to sync the routes ...
So also from my side, request to toggle between rerouting active/inactive .. switch on switch off
and as already also often requested in other posts ...
rerouting in the dashboard should use the original route and not modify it ...
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