Petition to Shimano

Sebastien LeCalvez

June 14, 2022 01:30

Hi, I just started a petition to change Shimano's decision to stop supporting their ANT proprietary protocol on the Hammerhead Karoo. It's on Change.org and I am inviting everyone to make it to sign it so we can share with Shimano. Take a look and join here: https://chng.it/GSFtpmjN

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Byron Brewer

June 14, 2022 02:40
Signed
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Bob L.

June 14, 2022 12:30
Great idea, thank you and signed just now!
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Jim C

June 15, 2022 03:17
Despite shimano's history of not giving their end users any consideration, signed. 👍
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Brian

June 16, 2022 04:15
✔
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John Gavin

June 16, 2022 19:05
Love the idea...hope it works!
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Evgenij

June 16, 2022 22:43
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Daniel Bjerregaard

June 17, 2022 08:50
Done
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Damon Murphy

June 17, 2022 16:22
Signed.
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Dave Morgan

June 24, 2022 07:21

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✓ and I also reposted it on my Strava feed

(On Strava: Click ➕ > POST > Make your case and add the petition link https://chng.it/6cF9qrxSyG > Click PUBLISH)
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Raimondo Di Bella

June 23, 2022 10:56
Signed
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Francisco Haya Ramos

June 24, 2022 06:17
Firmado
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Andi Djee.

July 01, 2022 23:13
@Hammerhead: Can you please pin this post on top of the forum??
- I can’t understand that you don’t support this as much as possible!
Now that 105 also goes DI2, I would start to put a bit more attention on this point… as always, just my two cents…
BG
Andi

PS: I am still using your old software to not loose DI2 functionality…!!!!!!!!!!!!
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ttalonso

July 13, 2022 05:55
signed, but unfortunately it will fall on deaf ears
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Antonio

July 30, 2022 10:13
Signed
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Howie Nordström

August 19, 2022 12:40
Not that I think Shimano gives a damn. Heck, they continue to discriminate against macOS users. Honestly, my next setup will not be Shimano.
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Matt White

August 23, 2022 18:36

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Why not petition this through ANT+ Alliance? They are the owners (via Garmin) that own the actual patent. One of the user agreements for its use is free and unrestricted application of the technology. As Shimano is using Ant+, they are in violation of this agreement with the owner of Ant+. I would wager that now that SRAM owns HH, they just don’t care to fight to make it work with their rival component company. Especially now that 105 Di2 is priced far more affordably than any SRAM road AXS group
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Edgar Karel

August 23, 2022 20:23
They use a private ANT protocol.
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Matt White

August 23, 2022 20:34

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Private Ant is a derivative of Ant+ and falls under the same open source restrictions. I know it didn’t come from DC Rainmaker, but because he hasn’t explained it that way doesn’t mean it isn’t true. I don’t get paid to post pretty reviews. Any version of Ant+ they use is subject to this regardless of what they name it. Find me a license with the FCC or the Patent office that is issued for Ant Private.
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Edgar Karel

August 23, 2022 21:48

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private ANT :

A private network key provides the greatest level of security, and is suitable for proprietary applications where interoperability is not required or desirable. A private network key provides full control over who can join the network and who can not; it also offers flexibility in terms of defining your own channel parameters and data format. Anyone with a private network key has total control over the network and can select who gets the key.
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