Karoo 2 - First impressions

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    david donnan

    Hi Nico, 

    Interesting post, thanks. Does the Wahoo do all of these things well?

    Thanks

    David

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    Nico Walker

    Hi David,

    3. Elemnt Roam has auto brightness. The battery dies after ~13 hours of riding with "display always on" and Livetracking via BT. connection to Smartphone.

    4. Wahoo Live-tracking works great. Free access for everyone, nice map display and lots of data field information. No SIM card slot.

    1. + 2. is where Elemnt Roam doesn't perform good and the reason why I decided to order Karoo 2. The Wahoo display has a pretty low resolution and is more like black and white instead of realy colored. Thats why it's hard to see any details on the maps or getting an overview of eg. the next 50 km. This would be a lot better on Karoo 2 if there was a way to have a fullscreen Map without loosing the small map with aditional datafields.

    Another thing I forgott to mention is the USB-C rubber cap. I really couldn't believe it when I saw this for the first time. With the Karoo 2 it is not connected to the device, so you have to remove it when charging and put it somewhere. It's only a matter of time before it's lost. Of course the USB port is waterproof and I like that it is USB-C, but without a cover mud will immediately enter and the plug does not fit in anymore...

    Nico

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    Martin B

    ditto on the USB-C cap being kinda joke. I can imagine loosing it mid-ride, when the cap just falls out after riding over few bumps.

    ad 1. Map screen. I'd say this is subjective matter. I personally don't mind having full screen map with no data fields. Or even the "two fields+map" layout is enough. You can always zoom out/in the map if you wanna see more of the route.

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    Joe Wang

    I've already lost my USB cap on a ride. Just using a piece of tape for now.

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    Nico Walker

    sure, these are all subjective matters. I don't like switching around between different pages while riding. So 90% of the time I use one page including all information necessary for me - a map, and 4 or 6 data fields. ~8% is a page for climbing hills including the elevation profile and 6 data fields. For 1% I use a page with 8 data fields showing the summary of my current ride and the last 1 % would ideally be the Fullscreen map to see exactly where I am, what's coming next or to reroute if I want to cancel the current track...

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    Richard

    #5 um, attach cover with  lil' piece of thread  to tether , cover or bike?

    #4 I don't have any friends and no one will ride with me, after that last episode, so I don't use the Live/Group feature, but lack of a phone app limits current use. It is problematic that all the LiveTrack features are platform specific and don't cross talk , but a phone app helps even with platform limitations between iOs and Android. I always though Group Ride was there so you can find your buds when they dropped you while you played with your unit.  The use of the SIM for this will help with part of the situation , when implemented, but propietary hurdles may persist.

    #3 Battery life for 12 hour rides is just going to require interval charging  or pluggin in for everything with much of  a screen. that's why the other guys use low power screens rather than phone like ones.

    #1-#2 It's just going to need several steps to get both a full screen and split screen. Not a hideous task  going APPS-> Profiles swap, as it sounds like you are doing.  If the second profile just has map and maybe one other screen, it's not too painful, and may have low enough demand that I wouldn't expect much priority. Since you need a phone anyway, maybe use two screens? Grate or great? Mapping is so personal, most demanding folks find something they like and import hassle though it is.

     

     

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