Vin HkE
Hi all,
I upload a new version of Vin Hammerhead Karoo Extension. User manual updated here:
https://github.com/maduwatas/Vin-HkE/blob/main/README.md
Extension apk downloadable here:
https://github.com/maduwatas/Vin-HkE/releases/download/latest/
HkE provides several alerts types. By time, calories, max power or max hear rate. Provides graphics widgets for power, heart rate, calories, power balance and pit board. Pit board is a easy to use functionality for receive small information from a remote web client and be able to choose an answer from up 3 diferent options while riding. See user manual to know more.
I am working now in ride start-stop automatic messages to pit board and a virtual partner widget.
Still is a beta phase. Please, be patient if found any bug and report.
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Couldn't find V1.2Apk to work with link on front page. Had to shorten URL and then found it.
https://github.com/maduwatas/Vin-HkE/releases/download/latest/Vin-HkE-1.2.0.24122001-release.apk
Many thanks 👍🏻
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Excuse me marcus, I upgraded release yesterday and changed link. Correct link now is:
https://github.com/maduwatas/Vin-HkE/releases/download/latest/Vin-HkE-1.2.1.24122201-release.apk
I recommended you use this link in future
https://github.com/maduwatas/Vin-HkE/releases
and get the latest version.
New version looks more beautiful:
In the other hand, when you install Vin HkE in your karoo, future releases can be installed with UPDATE button from your karoo.
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Perfect! I will upload directly via the KAROO in future. I find the whole GitHub site quite confusing to be honest. I found link here on your site:
https://github.com/maduwatas/Vin-HkE/releases
The App looks great! Very appreciated and I look forward to using it. Thank you for all your help and developments.
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Today I will upload a new version with adaptive sizes.
https://www.instagram.com/p/DEA4utXuvPa/
Thanks for your feedback!
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You are awesome mate.
Having another question, in colored data field you use Karoo wise color scheme which is abnormal comparing to well known garmin, wahoo even sram owned axs app uses color scheme like that:
1 zone grey
2 zone blue
3 zone green
4 zone yellow and so on.Have you ever considered to make it configurable? It would be very useful for somebody like me who uses many different units interchangeably.
Thank you,
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Not blank Marcus, 300 is the most common values. Probably Tadej Pogaçar have 330, but for common of mortals 300 is the correct value. Tau is a rate of the anaerobic recovery speed.
I wrote tax, but is was not correct spelling in english. In spanis tax is rate synonim, not in english, sorry. Do you understand now?
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Exhaustive explanation and algoritms used to calculate W' here http://markliversedge.blogspot.com/2014/07/wbal-its-implementation-and-optimisation.html
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@Vinapp, first of all: best wishes for 2025! Really like your development for the Hammerhead. The size of your blocks leaves much more space for the map, well done! Now that the fully customizable fields are available, I would like to ask if also more potential data inputs can be made available to select.
On my previous bike computer (Wahoo Elemnt Bolt V2), I used to ride with a page showing the map and 4 data fields. These data fields were showing:
- Average Power (5 sec)
- Power (5 sec) / FTP %
- Target Power (based upon the selected workout)
- Cadence
This gave me the best overview of where I was heading and what I had to do to execute a solid workout.
Would the above fit on your roadmap?
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HI Bob,
Yo can have average power at 5 secs if you put 5s in "Power smoothness" HkE parameter. Vin HkE reads instant power but shows smoothed power always, based on your selection. I will add target power as selectable field and %ftp, count on it.
Yo have target power too in the workout widget, executing workouts from Vinapp. Workout widget have power, cadence, heart rate and torque.
I will add % ftp in the next release or perhaps I can do that the user can change from power to % ftp with a click on the field. I will think about this.
Thanks for your feedback
This is the Vinapp workout widget:
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Hey @Vinapp I have installed Vin HkE in my Karoo 2 (what a challenge) and have a couple of questions that you might help me solve - let me know if this is not the right place to address them.
1 - After installing and when creating a new profile, the fields are not visible. Selecting Vin fields is possible but the text is not there like if the name of the field is the same as the background color.
2- In the graphical power there are three are 3 values on the top: Lap, Average and NP. Are they reseting every lap? Or are the average and NP for the full ride and only the Lap resets? If that's the case Lap values comes as Average or NP?
Perhaps you have some documentation about this details?3- One of the best features of Karoo is the option to change from one profile to another mid ride. When doing so, if I change to a profile that has Vin HkE widgets my power meter is somehow "disconnected" for a while and shows "searching" in all power & cadence related fields
4- Workouts widget only work with workouts from VinApp? Is there any alternative for iOS users? Any integration with Intervals.icu inlace or planned for the future?
Seeing your Pit Board idea shows how nice the SIM card option was in Karoo 2. I don't race with my phone thus this cool feature is not usable in races - form me at least.
Last note, thank you VERY much for your hard work and for making the Karoo even more fun to use. Hammerhead should consult with you to obtain ideas.
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Hi Eduardo, from your name I think than you speak spanish, therefore I will answer in this language that is native for me. If not, please let me known.
1- Es un error de hammerhead que se corregirá en la siguiente versión del sistema, prevista para el 23 de enero.
2- Lap es potencia media vuelta, con o sin ceros en función del o que elijas en las preferencias de Vin HkE. Np es la normalizada de toda la actividad. Si que hay documentación de todo esto, en el Readme.md de github.
3- Revisa qué tienes en la preferencia de ahorro de batería "CAPTURA DE SENSORES". Si eliges "siempre activa" el controlador centran de Vin se iniciará cada vez que inicies una actividad, aunque no haya campos de Vin HkE en el perfil. De ese modo podrás cambiar a un perfil con campos de Vin HkE en medio de la actividad y debería funcionar con normalidad. Si esa opción está en restringida el controlador de Vin sólo se inicia al empezar la actividad y sólo si hay campos Vin HkE en el perfil, de modo que si haces el cambio en medio de la actividad no habrá datos para mostrar en los widgets Vin HkE.
4- El widget de workout sólo es para ejecutar workouts de Vinapp. Ahora mismo estoy trabajando en la propia app de Vinapp para optimizar las pantallas de cara a usarlas en el karoo directamente, ya sea conectada al rodillo o sólo a los sensores. Además la lectura de datos se hace a través del propio karoo, aprovechando las extensiones, sin necesidad de la doble conexión karoo+vianapp que había que hacer antes. Pronto liberaré una nueva versión con todas estas mejoras.
Sobre la integración con intervals.icu, actualmente vinapp está completamente integrada con intervals.icu. Puedes tanto subir a intervals como bajar de intervals tu planificación y actividades.
No está previsto implementar Vinapp para IOS, pero tu karoo es android. Tanto con el 2 como con el 3 puedes usar Vinapp.
La pizarra de boxes la puedes utilizar con tu SIM en tu k2 sin problema. No necesitas llevar el móvil con la wifi conectada.
Muchas gracias por tu feedback!
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1- Is a hammerhead bug, will be fixed at january 23
2- Lap is average lap power, resetting every lap. NP is full activity normalized power. Documentation is available at github.
3- Set your preference "sensor capture" to always active.
4- Workouts widget is only for vinapp workouts. Vinapp have full integration with intervals.icu and strava. We have not a roadmap to implement IOS version.
5- Pit board works with GSM sim.
Thanks for your feedback!
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Hey @VinApp
Many thanks for reverting so promptly. I understand Spanish but I am from the country next door - Portugal.
All understood. I would like to mention that in point 3 I have the sensor data set to "Always Active" but still get the "Searching" when moving around profiles.
Can you share the Github link for side loading VinApp in my K2? I would like to give it a try.
Many thanks once more for your hard work.
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I am working in better sensor adquiring and visibility on profile editor data. Next Vin HkE release will be better and more stable in this sense.
I'm putting special care into the performance of the K2. The K3 has plenty of performance, but it will also benefit from these changes in battery saving.
apk for sideloading here: https://github.com/maduwatas/Vin-HkE/releases/tag/latest
Manual here https://github.com/maduwatas/Vin-HkE?tab=readme-ov-file#vinapp-hke
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Hi @Vinapp,
Thank you for your explanation in https://support.hammerhead.io/hc/en-us/community/posts/31914926088859/comments/32648313389467. and adding %FTP! However I'm looking for something like this: Screen of the map, with your custom fields (Grayson) including 4 fields, being:
- HkE-PW
- %FTP
- Cadence
- Power Target Workout
So my question is: Is it possible to add 'Power target workout' in the available data fields drop down menu where you can select the input for the data fields? I like the pictograms by the way.
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Since the last update, the display of remaining altitude meters no longer works in the freely configuring data fields. I have selected 6 fields. Last week with the older version of war all good. In addition, the distance of the driven route is not correct. It deviates about 2 km from the actual route.
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