Second Map screen

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    Gilles muoy

    not a bad idea: I love having the map at all times but sometimes want to see other data...

    another way to do it would be to allow to swipe the fields below the map so we can see different data sets.

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    Hari Krishnan

    Hi Marco,

    That is really a good suggestion and I have forwarded this to the software team. They will be happy to discuss this.

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    Daniel

    Did anything come out of this suggestion.  Most of the time I like to have a small map with elevation and two data fields, but sometimes during intricate navigation I want a full screen map.  Why isn't this possible?

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    Ola Strandberg

    I just received my Karoo 2 and must say I'm a little set back that you can only have one map card per profile. It comes pre-loaded with a profile called "Got Hills?" which is fine, but why would I want the elevation profile to be shown throughout my ride? Is it on the roadmap to add the function to add more than one map card?

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    Abhishek Anand

    Hey all. 

    I would like to inform you that we can consider the dual map screen, but on the other hand, we have challenges that we are aware of. These are:
    1. High battery drain due to two maps running on the navigation
    2. There is a higher possibility of software crashes

    However, once these are controlled and we have worked on these, we would certainly bring this on the Karoo. However, until then we have taken your suggestions and we will certainly look into them.

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    Ola Strandberg

    Aghishek, thanks for the update. 

    To be clear, I would not expect a screen with two simultaneous maps. I just want to be able to swap between different views that include a single map:

    - screen 1: map + upcoming elevation

    - screen 2: map + speed and distance

    - screen 3: just the map

    and so on

    I come from many years of various Garmin Edge, and take this for granted... 

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    Gilles muoy

    yeah, exact same request as Ola... don't see why you'd need to run several maps on nav at the same time: it's actually about changing or removing the metrics overlayed on the map, no? (that's what I meant by my comment from last year)

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    Brandon Babcock

    Yes, I'll 'third' that - what Ola mentioned would be ideal. 

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    Colin Rose

    I also want something similar to Ola.  As it stands the Karoo is not very useable for me and remains in its box. I usually  cycle in very hilly terrain and go long distances following a preloaded route, so would like the option to have map+speed+average speed+elevation data+time/distance to end of route + SRAM information available to be toggled as a bare minimum. Something which my Garmin 1030 for all its countless faults enables me to do.

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    Arjan Keizer

    Small deviation to Ola's suggestion: I would love one screen with 2 datafields + large map, and another screen with 4 datafields and smaller map. 

    That way; if I approach a hard to navigate section, I have a larger screen, while once I am cruising, I get more (and different) data fields on

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    Jeff Vestal

    Adding in my request. Attempting to add second map was one of the first things I attempted to do and was very disappointed. 

    I would like to have a screen with 4 data points and a small map and then swipe to another screen that is a full screen map. 

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    Mike Becker

    I would 100% agree a Second Map is a must have feature that you should implement mid term. For the interims a suggestion which you can implement w/o having to overcome the CPU load/batterie drain when having 2 maps running issue. 

    Ask your riders - If you are riding greater tours time by time you need a full screen map during your ride -but- mostly you like to have both map and data points. So, may you consider a toggle on/of for the data point fields on the map view. This won't be perfect but I would guess it will address the majority of above statements. 

     

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    Arjan Keizer

    Mike, indeed a good point; to get an explanation why it is not included. Is it CPU reasons? And does that apply for Karoo 1, because it uses same firmware, or does same problem apply to Karoo 2? 

     

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    Mike Becker

    @Arjankeizer - in his post from 6 days ago Abhishek Anand from the Karoo Team post that the second map is causing battery drain (which implies a high CPU load as this goes together) so this appears to be one of the key reasons why this feature is missing since a year - as this request is a year old it implies it's a Karoo 1 problem for sure and I can confirm that on Karoo 2 it is the same as I got my this week and that's why I'm joining this discussion thread...

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    Ola Strandberg

    @Mike Becker - I have to think that Abhishek must have misunderstood the request. It is not for two concurrent maps on the same screen - which would certainly drain the battery - it is the ability to switch between multiple screens that feature a single map and optional datafields one way or another. 

    As much as I appreciate the fact that there is a Community around the development, I get the sense that we are talking to engineers and not cyclists. Don’t get me wrong, it’s great to have the ability to do this as well, but it would be great if there were more actual Product Manager (assuming that they are passionate about cycling) involvement here.

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    Jeff Vestal

    Like @Mike Becker mentioned I would be happy to have the metrics be a toggle of some kind or how Wahoo does it by being able to "zoom" in and out the number of visible metrics on a screen on the fly. 

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    Steve Banham

    +1
    The option of having a full screen map plus other maps with various datafield would be very useful.
    Not sure why a second map would drain the power - it would be another instance of the same map, just resized. It wouldnt be updating unless it was being displayed.

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    Philippe Surmont

    Seriously upvoting this issue! As Hammerhead is really focusing so hard on navigation with the Karoo, it would help to make the gorgeous map and screen stand out even more.

    Seems like the most important thing if you buy a bike GPS is the mapping, so kinda make sense you want it on multiple screens and layouts.

    Go Hammerhead!

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    Toni Thenhausen

    +1

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    Mark

    +1, I still haven't been able to ride with my hammerhead yet (broken foot) but trying to streamline my screens as i set them up, and it seems odd not to have the ability to add more than one map page! please consider adding as an important update!

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    Sandy Thomson

    +1 for multiple map screens. I was disappointed that I couldn't do this. I guess the workaround is to change profiles mid-ride but it's not ideal.

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    Jan O.K.

    I strongly support this wish! It was my first Idea when setting up a profile. Please let us see the map on multiple pages with different or no data. There must be a way to only clone the map instance without having more calculations.

    PLEASE!!!

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    walter

    +1 

    Number 1 improvement on my list..

    What Ola says

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    Antonio Ruiz

    +1

    I opened another thread and i was told this was already requested here.

    So add another user to the list. I would also like to have two map cards in the same profile:

    Say you use the got hills profile:

    1 Card one: map + upcoming elevation

    2 Card two: map + couple metrics (speed, distance, heart rate for example)

    3 Card three: metrics only (i have 8 metrics data card i think)

    The reason for my request is that sometimes i wanna see the upcoming elevation but sometimes i just wanna see a bigger map with smaller metrics (speed/distance/hear rate/altitude). During the same ride i mean.

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    Jan DG

    +1

    Is also one of my improvement request, but not at the cost of battery drain ;-)

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    Joe Hoffman

    I'd agree, I was disappointed to see I couldn't do this.

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    Christopher Husta

    It's wild this isn't possible... would love to have a small map with 4 data fields and then be able to switch just to just the map when the roads get a little confusing. Long time garmin user here and that was one of the only things that was flawless about the edge series.

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    Akhil

    Hey All, 

    Thank you for sharing your suggestions here :) I have made a note to have this taken further to my product team. We do have this in our list for improvements & additions but there are other features that do take up a higher priority (better visibility, Improving data accuracy such as elevation, etc)  at this juncture and we are doing our best checking off each of them :) 

    We can't thank you guys enough for bringing the best out of the Karoo 2 :)

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    M L

    One of the first things I just tried to do - add a "map only" card to the profile. Looking forward to this feature being implemented!

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    Matthew Cechini

    Yes, I really want to be able to add _more than one_ screen to a profile that has a map.  My specific use case would be to have a screen with a large map (so that my big fingers can zoom/pan easier) and then a screen with a smaller map just for reference along with other data fields.

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