Feature Request: Radar (Varia) Auto mode (lights on only when a car is approaching)

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    Serge Voronov

    HH team please add light control to API :)

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    Christian Renner

    Much appreciated. I miss this feature from my Wahoo (though I do not like their latest changes to their auto-mode vs. on/off).

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    JahRoadie

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    Mitja Bonca

    That would surely extend quite a lot of battery life.

    +1

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    John Pfennings

    +1

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    Gregory Gregory

    @Marco, You can buy Bryton Gardia. It works very good in automatic mode with Karoo.

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    Christian Renner

    I'd prefer to have this working for the Garmin Varia instead of buying another device. Auto mode works fine with the Varia on Wahoo devices (2nd and 3rd gen tested), so this is something that could (and should) be done on the Karoo side. :-)

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    Marco

    If you watch GPLamas Videos, I'd rather buy a second Varia to double the battery life instead of these unreliable ones (I don't know if Bryton was one of them, there are a lot radars now). 

    @Gregory: Does the Bryton really have an Auto mode on the Karoo? So it only turns on when a car is approaching? Or do you mean the Auto mode, that the light turns on when you start a ride and turns off when it finished?

     

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    Mitja Bonca

    Varia all the way for me as well.

    And I seriously doubt Bryton has such a feature.

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    Gregory Gregory

    @Marco, I use Bryton Gardia R300L ~1 year and I can confirm it has car detection with light on/off when the light is off, auto light start/stop, brake detection, USB-C and good battery. https://global.brytonsport.com/products/gardia-r300l

    So, if you have Varia, I understand you want to have this function in Karoo. But if you don't have a radar yet, Gardia is a good alternative for Varia because it has this function now. In my opinion the Gardia's case and mounting accessories are very good quality, maybe better than Varia. Gardia can works with aplication only on a smartphone or standalone (but it has no built-in buzzer). Maybe I'll make a video to show it, but I think it's available online.

     

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    Serge Voronov

    It’s a bad idea to sell the Varia and buy a Bryton.
    In any case, getting light control through the API will give you more possibilities.
    For example, turning it off/on based on a light sensor.

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    Gregory Gregory

    Who says sells Varia?

    My today video. Gardia light is in OFF mode. It turns on automatically when car approaches. Mode control is native in Karoo without any additional extensions.

    https://1drv.ms/v/c/659b11a95c3b3790/IQBLx_NNdDCAQIGkY6XwB55sAYDs_YIIlxRBvIWG4b_qb7g?e=guRfSb

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    Thomas Gruber

    I can confirm that the Bryton Gardia has this feature.

    Even gplama confirmed that purchasing the Gardia was worthwhile after the initial software updates.

    I use it from time to time (especially on my way to work) and don't see much difference from the Varia 515. However, the Gardia loses the Ant+ connection more easily, but this is a common problem with radar devices.

    Wahoo has implemented this feature, and it has mostly worked for me, but to be honest, I don't see much point in it for me. That's why I prefer the Karoo, where I can easily turn the backlight on and off, which is more complicated with the Elements (Series 2) or the Gamins (even with a touchscreen).

    On the road, I prefer to turn the lights on for safety reasons, but I can turn them off on long cycle paths or gravel roads without traffic. The lights are visible much further than the radar's detection range. For safety reasons, I would always recommend keeping the lights on permanently when there might traffic behind you. That should be more important than battery life.

    I believe one of the newer recommended radar devices (Wahoo or Lezyne) also has the desired feature.

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    Marco

    @Thomas you are right, having the light on all the time is safer than only when the radar detects something. The problem is, if you have it on all the time, you'll have no light at all sooner or later. Which could be a major problem. Either on a long ride or if you forget to charge the device after every ride. I often had this problem with my Varia back in the days, but since the Roam V2 introduced this feature, it barely happened. 

    Anyway, it's good to know that some manufacturers implement the auto feature on the device itself, but it would still be nice to manage it on the Karoo as long as most devices out there don't have it. 

     

     

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    Mitja Bonca

    Why would it be a problem? When radar sees a closing object at the back, it turns on the light, until is passes by, then light turns off. ASAT. I don't see any issue here. And radar sees ALL, its made for it, if you think it will skip something, you are horibly wrong, sorry.

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    Christian Renner

    Regarding the auto feature on the device, that's nice, but I would prefer to have it on the computer, because I can easier control the feature: i.e., enable auto-on/off during day time, disable during night time or when it's dark due to overcast or so (-> light always on). I agree that it is safer to have the light on when it is darkish, but the light won't help too much on sunny days. When it is light, I would prefer to have the light off (save battery) but have it on when a car approaches.

    My use case is, in addition, somewhat different, because I am located in Germany, where we have very strict bike light regulations. And that's not only for using them but for their features. For example, you cannot buy the Wahoo radar legally in Germany, and the new Sigma Reco has a German-market-specific version (no flashing lights, no auto-on/off!). Thus, it would be great, if the bike computer could assistant here. :-)

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    Mitja Bonca

    I think we are all here for to have this feature on the Karoo device, from which you can enable or disable manually.

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