Update on ANT+ LEV eBike Integration

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Hari Krishnan

• January 07, 2023 05:59
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Dear riders,

As per our earlier communications on some of the forum threads, the ANT+ LEV eBike Integration that was expected to be released by the end of this year has been slightly postponed to early next year as we are working on few more refinements. You can expect it to be released early this year.

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  Pietje

  • December 08, 2022 07:33

  Thank you for the update.
  
  Can you already tell us which e-bike systems will be supported?

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  Hari Krishnan

  • December 08, 2022 09:28

  @Pietje: The eBikes which support ANT+ LEV are the ones that will work with Karoo 2 after this integration is released

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  Remmie Ran

  • December 25, 2022 12:09

  Thanks can not wait

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  Dan Barla

  • January 10, 2023 05:55

  I believe it was initially announced for January, now the post has been edited and release is planned for early this year. Do we know the month ? We are eagerly waiting for this, you must realize that eBikes are the hottest thing right now, don’t loose this train.

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  Ali

  • January 10, 2023 06:19

  Dan, the plan is to release as soon as the development and a thorough testing has been conducted. We know eBikes are one of the most requested integration request we receive. We are still under development so we will announce the month when we think it is ready.

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  Dan Barla

  • January 10, 2023 06:25

  But you should try to respect deadlines as well if you want your customers and future customers to trust your company, especially since you’re a new company trying to fight the big ones for market share. I believe it’s taking an extremely long time, with extremely huge delays for such an easy feature, it’s a matter of displaying some fields over ANT LEV, not some rocket science; I am developer myself. It probably took a shorter time to develop the whole Karoo2 itself...

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  Remmie Ran

  • February 12, 2023 16:15

  Guys this is getting ridiculous, I should have purchased a Sigma computer to interact with my Fazua e-bike. You have promised us  some sort of integration  since a year ago 

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  Jens Vogelgesang

  • February 12, 2023 19:43

  The biggest problem with my FAZUA was the not working speed sensor.
  By adding a separate speed sensor before the FAZUA solved the problem for me.
  From FAZUA now cardance and power is working fine. So I am a little bit relaxed now.

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  Remmie Ran

  • February 13, 2023 11:56

  TRUE , but what about battery level and assist mode?

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  Remmie Ran

  • February 23, 2023 22:53

  Ebike support but only Ant + not BLE :(

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  Johan

  • February 24, 2023 01:49

  Its working great on my Bianchi Aria eRoad

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  Remmie Ran

  • February 24, 2023 07:10

  @support do you plan integration with BLE bikes or Just Ant+?

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  Remmie Ran

  • February 24, 2023 07:14

  @support do you plan integration with BLE bikes or Just Ant+?

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  Ali

  • February 24, 2023 08:04

  Currently this feature is released only over standard ANT+ LEV. We will learn more about our rider's requirements over time.

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  Remmie Ran

  • February 24, 2023 08:07

  Ali looks like you have a lot of requests for Fazua/Porsche integration which is BLE can you look at introducing that

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  Ali

  • February 24, 2023 11:18

  Remmie, our Product team is aware of that and depending on the requirements as well as the efforts required to build that up is entirely on them. Rest assured, we have passed on all such requests and upvotes to the Product team.

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  José Antonio Sánchez Causapié

  • February 24, 2023 14:17

  Buenas tardes!!! S es posible poner alguna pagina de la e-Bike en mi perdil?? Como se hace??? Gracias!!!

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  Mike Clements

  • February 24, 2023 15:33

  My cockpit on my Bianchi Aria has become less complicated. So happy with my Hammerhead!
  Hugh congratulations to the Product team👏👏

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  Dan Barla

  • February 24, 2023 16:57

  @Ali, so the ANT+ integration has now been implemented? Is it incuded in the latest update?

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  Javier Cejudo

  • February 24, 2023 17:04

  Very good implementation. Well done to the Hammerhead team for a great job they are doing...

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  Remmie Ran

  • February 24, 2023 17:05

  Indeed , all we need now is BLE support :)

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  Gerry Stephenson

  • February 26, 2023 23:12

   

  I already submitted a ticket!!

  First test ride for the e-bike integration. 

  The range field never did anything, just sat on .6. Also the 20M power was no good, not sure why. 

  

  Als there was significant battery drain for no reason.

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  Ali

  • February 27, 2023 11:15
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  if a particular data field shows as "No eBike" and all the other eBike data fields display the relevant information - it means, that particular eBike is not transmitting this data type. This has been demo'd on this article: https://support.hammerhead.io/hc/en-us/articles/12869408525851-Karoo-2-E-Bike-Integration

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  Remmie Ran

  • February 27, 2023 12:51

  Hi Ali , I have another question with regard to Fazua BLE implementation 

  as it is currently, Karoo does capture the speed, Candance and power with no additional code changes, also on the sensor screen you have the sensor battery level so this is also captured, just needs to be displayed on the main layout screens.  The only thing that is missing is the assist level and it is not difficult to get that information as Fazua broadcast it with the rest of the information so can that be added to the layout screens?  

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  Ali

  • February 28, 2023 08:02

  The Fazua system does have ANT+, but they have not released an update to support the E-Bike profile LEV (light electric vehicle). On doing some online research they initially released Fazua systems with the ANT+ chips installed but were not active. They later released a firmware update to enable ANT+ but did not add the LEV profile. They could add this at a later time, but we do not have information on that. As of now, there are no plans for eBike BLE support, but we hope this will be considered by our Product team in the future, also hoping the eBike manufacturers start supporting the standard LEV profile.

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  Remmie Ran

  • February 28, 2023 08:17

  Ok thanks , BTW only Fazua 60 has Ant + Not the 50 , but it does not mater as u stated that there is no plan to support BLE

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  Kristóf Szabó

  • April 27, 2023 12:09

  Which ebike specific data saved to the FIT file? (Let's assume the bike sends all the data which are Karoo can manages)

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  Steve Webb

  • May 01, 2023 12:24

  I'm using a Specialized Vado 3 with the K2 and the integration is still not working - even after the latest software and firmware updates.

  Main gripes: inaccurate (or dubious at least) power readings on ECO with 25/100 assist, EXACTLY 1:1 rider/motor power on TRAIL with 50/100 assist and zero motor power on TURBO with 100/100 assist.

  Also, that really irritating yellow bar graph/banner that comes up a second or so after you change assist level then completely obscures the display underneath it for about 10 secs before disappearing, having served no apparent useful function. What is it there for? What does it do or indicate? HH - please get rid of it!

  Other forums suggest BT may be the way to go if you can't get Ant+ LEV working properly. If so, then bring it on, please...

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  Hari Krishnan

  • May 02, 2023 12:24

  @Kristóf: 

  We can see that these are the three metrics related to e-Bikes that are available in the FIT file for the supported e-Bikes.

  • Estimated Range

  • e-Bike battery

  • Assits Level

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