Can I start a ride in the middle of a route?
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I’ve uploaded a number of Ride with GPS routes into my Hammerhead Dashboard as routes and they are on my Karoo 2. However, these are loop routes but I don’t intend to start the route where Ride with GPS has it. Can I easily move the starting point, or would the Karoo allow me to start a Route from somewhere other than the starting point and still allow me to cycle without continually wanting to route me back to the RWGPS starting point?
Thank you!
Steve
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Hi Steve, to edit the starting point you would have to do that from the Dashboard and sync back on the Karoo 2. I don't believe you'd want to do that as it would change the route algother. However, you can start the ride from anywhere and you will be navigated to the closed point on the route towards the destination not necessarily the start point.
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Unless you are starting your ride at a point on the route itself, I find that it works best if you select the route and then drop a pin at the point where you want to join the route (or just beyond it). The Karoo will recognize your position on the route (and navigate accordingly) once you are actually on it, but before that you either get routed to the starting point or (re-re-re)routed to various points on the route which in my experience make little sense and seem to ignore surface information as well, at least based on the random forest paths the Karoo seems to want me to take.
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This is a feature that needs to become part of the baseline. There are often times where I want to ride part of a route or join a route after already starting my ride (without the intention of knowing whether i want to join the route). Where can this be added for the developers to work on?
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Have you tried it? In my experience joining a route mid-ride works just fine, at least once Karoo has detected you are on or rather within 5–10 m of the actual route (meaning that GPS or route inaccuracies can lead to problems). If it’s a loop route you want to continue riding beyond the end point, you do have to remove and re-add the route (without having to end your ride) once you have reached the end, but that’s a minor inconvenience at most.
Getting to the route, on the other hand, is a different matter, as I wrote earlier. You do indeed either get directed to original starting point or onto a strange path (ignoring road type information, for one thing) to a point on the line, which you can avoid by first selecting the route, then dropping a pin on the route line at or slightly beyond the point where you actually want to join the original route, which usually gives you a sane route to follow. (If I don’t need directions to get to the route, I tend to just start the ride without any route selected and activate the route first when I have reached it, and similarly remove the route when I’m no longer following it.)
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You need to stop for that? (Ok, if finding the route takes some searching or you’re wearing long-finger gloves or...) But sure, for riding multiple laps of the same course it can get annoying, I expect for a race you’d probably just use a route with all the laps separately. (Since getting my Karoo, I have only done one race with a route active, not much use for one on the track or in a crit...)
I didn’t realize it used to do that earlier, all I saw was the endless rerouting hell (new navigation cues pop up as fast as you can dismiss them so it takes umpteen tries to actually get the stop button to register) while trying to exit and save the ride at any point other than the exact planned finish, and I certainly don’t want that to return.
Then again, simply recognizing the exit button when a navigation cue is displayed would make the rerouting hell irrelevant and make it possible to return to the old behaviour, if it actually makes sense in some cases. Also, detecting loop routes isn’t exactly rocket science (start and end points within x metres of each other) so they could just be treated as a special case.
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