Do you like the new "in-ride look"?
I always try to be positive about new user interfaces. I always try to recognize the advantages of new UIs. In my previous job I designed a lot of UIs.
But this new updated UI does not work for me. The legacy UI was a very good looking UI (It had some roughness, but was a nice, modern UI). The new rounded corner boxes are pointless, the grey background color is ugly, and not harmonic. The legacy UI was much more modern this new UI is just old fashioned and outdated. The large upcoming elevation graph black background on a black screen looked very good, the new grey graph is just ugly. The legacy UI gave higher contrast feeling, the new grey color brings low contrast feeling.
My suggestions for Hammerhead are rethink and tweak this new UI and/or make an option to use the legacy UI (my main buying decision to Karoo was the good looking UI). The best would be it you keep the style of the legacy UI and make small updates and error corrections on it. It the new boxes layout is a must have (for future functions), you have a much more better way to design a boxed layout.
Please review this new UI!
What do you think?
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https://support.hammerhead.io/hc/en-us/articles/360054935614-Profile-Layouts-Legend
Karoo page showing the new layouts.
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I have updated just a few hours ago before reading this post and get at glance of what it looks like.
It is terribly disappointing and is a very serious step backwards in terms of readability.
Honestly, I'm just grumpy about it.
The existing layout was very pleasant and readable. With all possible suggestions made for other improvements, time is being spent on this decline. The only hope is that next release this will be rolled back soon.
Reluctantly go cycling tomorrow....
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Step back Hammerhead.
This restyling is really ugly...it devalues the product.
Who came up with this design?
They look like the data fields of a gps from the 90s, but a cheap gps.
All the glamor that the Karoo 2 had is gone...horrible, it had a 10 field data page and now I have to change everything because I can't really see the digits, they have gone down a lot in size.
Before:After:
Awful.
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No! It's a disaster!
How does someone think that, as a cyclist, I want to see INTENSITY FACTOR on the screen that I configured instead of IF? Or TRAINING STRESS instead of TSS? And then how was the decision made to display HR instead of HEART RATE? There's no consistency.
I configured the screen. I'm interested in the data, not the title of the field. With this update Hammerhead has succeeded in making the device harder to read.
How does something like this even make it into production? Who is the Product Manager?
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I’ll try it tomorrow and will see, my main concern is how are you actually prioritizing the product features, is this really the feature that is bringing the highest value to customers ????? Clearly not, you are investing where you shouldn’t.
At least give the option to pick old VS new UI, gather the data on what the people prefers.
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No. No. No. The 2 line captions are bad, "Karoo Battery" and "Distance Remaining"??? What a horrible use of space. And those are just the captions I can see from their Profile Layouts support screen, I hate to think what they use for Power Data captions.
The new screens might not be all that bad if they get rid of the two line captions and use the space saved for larger data fonts.
I'm happy I have auto-updates turned off.
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Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear!!! Another complete waste of time and resources from the rapidly declining Hammerhead brand. As had been mentioned before by a few folks on this forum, the acquisition by SRAM has been the catalyst for disaster!
The recent thread asking what owners would like to see in a K3 computer had a lot of ideas ... but ... did anyone see this update coming??? I think we all know the answer. What the actual f@#$ have they just done?
A response from Hammerhead would be appreciated but we all know how unlikely that will be!
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Did the designers lose a bet? This is horrible and difficult to read. I’m disabling the auto update on all 3 K2s in the house. I showed my family and they all shuddered in revulsion. Seriously, if I wanted a garbage-looking hard-to-read interface I would have kept the Garmin. Hopefully this gets reverted, otherwise maybe we need to re-think what device we use.
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I think the UI does feel more consistent now between pull down, pull up, ride screens and menus. Before it was feeling more like there were 4 UI's going on! I haven't ridden with it yet but, like always, I will give the designers the benefit of the doubt as they have thought about it longer than I have had a chance to yet.
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I rode to work this morning with this new UI after an update last night. I didn't look at for a while as I was concentrating on traffic etc. but when I did, oh my!! It is a mess and its readability is seriously reduced.
During the days of the Karoo 1 UI updates were very common and not always good but Hammerhead managed to get to a reasonably stable look which I liked (except for a lack of an option for center-justified fields). Now this. It is such a retrograde step I can't really believe it. I used to extoll the virtues and beauty of the mapping screen to anyone I could bore with the topic but now those data fields just look horrible and ruin it.
I was half considering buying another one at the reduced summer price but not if this is the direction things are going in. I am a little concerned they are selling off Karoo 2 hardware because a Karoo 3 is coming but I am sure no one will comment on that either.
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Sometimes I wonder what is going on at Hammerhead, they apparently have a sizeable team of engineers but each update is very incremental, sometimes it's even just "low effort" items. Are they building something huge behind our backs or closing down shop?
Anyway, I agree with most comments here. I think (almost) every Karoo owner as been an ambassador for the product, if Hammerhead doesn't listen to feedback I think many people will not be happy - not just with the UI but with the company/product direction.
I'm hoping for the better, we will see.
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