Request: Cue Sheet with Distance Remaining to Cues/POI
An old-school paper cue sheet typically shows both the distance from previous cue and the cumulative distance from the start. With a GPS computer, instead of cumulative distance from start, we could have the total distance remaining to that cue.
The Karoo2 cue sheet "drawer" shows each cue's distance from the previous cue. I find this data of quite limited usefulness. Most of the time, if I'm swiping up to see what's coming next on the route, I want to know for example that I have 38.2 km until I reach County Road, not that I will turn onto County Road after 1.5 km on Leonard Road, which is seventeen turns ahead.
When the cue sheet includes POIs along the route, I want to see the distance remaining to that cafe / rest stop / control. In my mock-up below, I want to know that Hot Stacks Family Restaurant is 58.4 km away from my current position on the route, not that it's 18.6 km along County Road.
Similar requests have been raised in other threads — see here:
These have been marked Completed and Answered but they have not been fully addressed.
Perhaps there is a way to revise the cue sheet to show both leg distance and remaining distance to that cue, and have the street name below so more of it is visible? Or maybe when you tap on that cue, in addition to expanding the cue to show the rest of the street name, it shows that remaining distance as in the above mock-up.
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Thanks a lot Stanley, I've just had idea to restart this topic. It's quite simple yet ver useful and welcome.
Hammerhead claimed, the distance from where you are now to the POI ALNONG the route is available when clicking on the POI icon. But its not. The distance is shown IMHO likely in the straight line and in miles, not by the units set as current ones.
Regards from Ciechocinek, Poland, Europe. -
I agree - this is a much needed feature and long overdue.
Your mock-up looks good to me and I would add one more item - add on/off switches in the navigation settings to show or not show Turns and to show or not show POIs.
I know some of my routes so well I don't want to see turn-by-turn prompts or lists, just the POIs which I think of as milestones.
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@Radek, Yes, I just tested and confirmed with RideWithGPS that when you tap on a POI the "Distance to Pin" shown is the straight line distance, as the crow flies. I'm not sure why they bother showing that distance.
@Larey K, I agree, and I would say even on unfamiliar routes, since we have a map and turn-by-turn navigation, I usually don't scan through the cue sheet to prepare for the next few turns — I just zoom out on the map. Besides, in the cue sheet many street names like "Concession Rd 3" or "County Road 27" are truncated in an unhelpful way unless you tap on them, so I can't get the next few turns in a glance anyways — I think this is another thing that should be improved.
Maybe the toggle could be directly in the cue sheet drawer? Like how tapping on the cue sheet/TbT icon mutes/unmutes the automatic turn cues. Or maybe it would be a second drawer tab so you could have 1. Cue sheet as is with all cues, and swipe to 2. Cue sheet of POIs only.
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Hi,
I've just received the news from Hammerhead about our request.
It is not the good one 😏.
The development team is unfortunately for us focused on sport features. Apparently HH tries to follow direction of Garmin and Wahoo..Hi Radek,
Sorry to deliver a bad news - but there are no plans to add this feature on the Karoo 2 immediately.
We have captured your request, and other rider's request for this matter on our Backlog and we do wish to see this added sometime in the future. Currently, the priority is to improve our workouts implementation along with Maps, Navigation updates and additional language support on the device.
We will let our community know as soon as this is in the plans. -
Another vote for this. Coming from Garmin to Karoo 3, amazed that there is not a POI Cue Sheet option… surely this is an easy fix. I doubt if anyone uses the current cue sheet which is effectively useless. Please prioritise this HH - some of the posters have even mocked up how it should look!
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I came from Wahoo to the K2 a couple of years ago. There are a lot of good features but there are two main reasons, as someone who does multi-day bikepacking routes I will move over to Garmin at some point. One is the battery life, it is just horrible. The second is not having the ability to see the distance to POIs on route. It is a basic feature and should have been addressed long ago.
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Another request for Cue Sheet Editing:
Use case: I planned a route via Public Water Fountains in Komoot. Upon opening to edit from the Karoo dashboard I see that there are only unmarked waypoints on the mapped route. I now have to manually add a Water-POI roughly close to each Water Fountain location because I can't edit the waypoint that is already there.
Adding an Edit option to the Tick/Trash pop-up when clicking on a waypoint would be a welcome addition to some basic route planning functionality ie: Change Name, Change to POI, Change POI type, Save to Route/Save to Global.
Knowing the distance to Water/Lunch/Viewpoint etc would also be a huge help to group and family navigation!
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