Dark Mode Maps

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    Ali

    Hi Wim, this is not possible right now. Your request has been shared with the product team for consideration. Thanks!

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    Wimking

    Thanks for the reply and to take it into consideration.

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    Matt McCluskey

    Yes!  PLEEZE!

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    Ali

    Dark mode maps is not on current backlog, and no immediate or long term plans. This is also not a common request from most Karoo riders so we will look into it when it is higher on a priority list than other features.

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    Wimking

    Thanks for the fast reply. Didn't knew that this wasn't a common request.
    Thought for all the ultra endurance rider or myself, that usually drives 8-12h per ride, which means a couple of hours are thru the night, it would be really helpful.

    Screen on my Karoo 2 are also too bright at night time.
    Possibility to switch the settings to not such a bright mode at night?

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    Lee Manes

    Hey Wimking

    Are you reducing the brightness? 

    For me it works well for the those early morning and late evenings. 

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    Wimking

    Hi Lee
    Of course i adjust the brightness to the lowest settings. But still, if i run in the night thru countryside its still to bright. Dark mode would be a game changer.

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    Lee Manes

    Hello Wimking,

    I noticed yesterday there is a dark/light mode option on the device. When a ride is recording, swipe down to see the option.

    Below is a link to HH Info for a HH1 unit but also works on HH2.

    Hope this helps!

    https://support.hammerhead.io/hc/en-us/articles/1260804766529-Karoo-1-Light-and-Dark-Modes

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    Juliane Röll

    Big +1 from me: even on lowest setting, the screen is much too bright for night rides. For me, it poses a security risk, as my eyes adjust to the brightness when looking at the screen, and then need several seconds to readjust to the dark, during which visibility is much reduced. I therefore turn the screen off as much as possible during the night and sometimes navigate with other devices instead of the Karoo. Dark maps would be superb.

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    Ian Gordon

    Yes, we really need a map dark mode - this is a glaring ommission. And a dangerous one!

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    philippe marcelino

    So yes, after a first long night right last friday, the top priority thing on my todo list for this week was to check how to switch my karoo to dark mode...

    Just to realize it's not possible for now? And someone made a first request 2 years ago? I can't see myself riding a full night with the current settings, and I have a 400kms ride planned next month.

    Is it possible to at least provide a way to lower the brightness (way) further? Last resort would be to add some semi translucent sheet of plastic to act as a ND filter :'(

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    Bhagyashree

    Hi Philippe, I completely understand your interest in having the map available in dark mode. Our team is already aware of the request and may consider it for a future update. We can't provide a specific timeline for its implementation at this time. We really appreciate your feedback, and it helps us improve the product experience!

     
     
     
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    Ian Gordon

    Hi Hammerhead. I tell all my cycling buddies about my wonderful Karoo 2, and show them how fantastic and capable it is. But then they ask me if there are any problems with it. And I then tell them that there's no dark map mode for navigation outside of daylight hours, and it's a major downside to this otherwise best in class product. It really disappoints me, as everything else about it is top-notch. I don't understand why such a minor but incredibly important feature wouldn't have been introduced by now. Is it even on your backlog? 

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    Bhagyashree

    Hey Ian, yes, our product team is already aware of this feature request, and it’s planned for a future update. While we don’t have an exact timeline for its release yet, we truly appreciate your feedback. We're always working to improve the product based on what our riders need and suggest!

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    Ian Gordon

    Thanks Bhagyashree, could you please tell us when the development work is scheduled for? Is it definitely lined up for a sprint? How long typically do such upgrades take from development to get through testing and released into the live environment, out to us users?

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    MacGyver

    Karoo 3 allows you to activate Extra Dim. (I don't know if this works with Karoo 2 because of the older version of Android.)

    Required steps:

    • Activate Developer Mode (Settings - About - click on build number several times)
    • Activate Extra dim: Settings - Apps: Select the first "Settings" app, select Open, select Accessibility, Select "Extra dim" with several options: 

    This is kind of an electronic ND filter. You can adjust the intensity (this allows you to set the brightness to very very low) and you can also create a shortcut, this is a floating button to enable/disable the extra dim in every screen:

    Have fun with Karoo on your night rides!

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    Ian Gordon

    Um, that is NOT the same thing as a properly designed and implemented dark mode. And this feature definitely needs to go out to al Karoo versions as it's a safety feature. Extra Dim is not what we're looking for and certainly good enough.

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    MacGyver

    You can also try to activate "color inversion" (Accessibility - Text and display). But this requires also the developer mode.

    The map is darker, but it's just a workaround. And the route is harder to see.

    I agree, the best solution is a properly made dark mode for the map.

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    philippe marcelino

    @MacGyver Your comments are very much appreciated. Would be an acceptable workaround while we wait for the proper feature.
    Sadly it does not work on the Karoo2, as the extra dim feature seems to be introduced with Android 14 (maybe earlier as a developper option as the Karoo 3 is Android 12). Color inversion seems older (Android 10?) but I don't see it either. In fact I see no accessibility option at all.
    So I'm out of luck.

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    MacGyver

    For Karoo 2, I can only think of one option: sideload an app that allows the screen to be dimmed.

    The app "Red Moon" (can be found on F-Droid) seems to work on Karoo 3, maybe it works on Karoo 2 too. Otherwise you have to search for an alternative app.

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    Wimking

    Please make the dark mode map a possibility. As some aleady mentioned its a safety feature when riding at dawn or night.

    Or if its not possible gor your developers at leastake the possibility to dim the screen more.

    Otherwise i try to programm and code my karoo2 to get it to work.

    2 years later and still nothing changed.

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    Wimking

    @MacGyver Wohooo thanks a lot!
    I sideloaded red moon. this link was the easiest tutorial i could find (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ci4GP31nmDA&list=WL&index=8) and it dimms the screen a lot.
    I don't know if it uses more battery with the app constantly open but for now its million times better then before when i ride at night. Saved my day!

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    MacGyver

    @Wimking

    You are welcome.

    I rarely ride at night and then only in the city.

    Can you tell more about your night rides?

    • Which bike do you use? MTB? E-MTB? Gravel bike?
    • Which routes do you ride? Road, forest trail, gravel, mountain trail, downhill?
    • Do you have a lighting system on your bike? High power light?
    • Why do you need the Karoo? Navigation? Climber? Statistics?
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    philippe marcelino

    @MacGyver Finally found time to give RedMoon a try on my Karoo 2, and it will do the trick for sure. I'll only put some tape to cover the status bar and I should be just fine. Thx for this workaround!

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