Karoo 2 seems not to be ready for MTB....and looks that will take long time.

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    Gerald Wagner

    I am considering buying the HH Karoo 2 for MTB and road cycling.

    Is the MTB support still on the level described above?

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    Oriol

    Look at t’has new feature
    Introducing Breadcrumb Routing

    Breadcrumb Routing is a new navigation preference added as an option when you select a route from your routes list. This mode is designed for anyone who needs to follow a route that deviates from underlying road or trail data, as the normal “follow route” function on Karoo relies on the underlying map data supporting the route.

    Additional notes on the new behavior:
    Karoo will still be able to tell you if you’re on or off route
    Follow as breadcrumb will not have turn-by-turn guidance.
    Upcoming elevation will only appear when you are on the breadcrumb trail.
    CLIMBER will not work when following a route as a breadcrumb trail.
    The breadcrumb trail shows a solid yellow polyline to represent the route.
    When you are on the breadcrumb route, the route will have chevrons.
    Note: Chevrons will not appear at all zoom levels.

    Improved Support for Long Routes

    We have added the ability to load and follow long routes (200+ miles).

    When you load a long route, our routing engine will break up the route into 200 mile segments.
    When you are halfway through a segment, it will load the next segment. The rider will always be able to see a minimum of 100 miles ahead on their route.
    Direction cues, Upcoming Elevation, CLIMBER and re-routing will only work on the current “segment” being navigated.
    Riders will not be able to “Reverse” a long route. You will need to reverse the route from your routes source and re-sync the new reversed route to Karoo.

    I did not tried myself but it looks really nice.
    I have to say that my son last October did make a very difficult traverse at this time of the year just using the Karoo 2 and he told me was fine Hiigland trail in Scotland. Sometimes the trail was fime.
    I think breadcrumb should be very good.

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    Gerald Wagner

    Thanks for the reply.

    I think I‘ll wait for reviews of the new features how it works out in „wild“ and then decide if I get one.

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    Oriol

    I believe a breadcrumb , should be fine since will no reroute creating errors , and follow strictly the gps path .
    I will check and post when I work a bit with it.
    Still there are no countor lines are inexistent on the map.

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    Brad Haack

    The Karoo is still very poor as an mtb navigation device.   It fine for recording gpx tracks and elevation, but they haven't addressed most of the issues that many of us had years ago.

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    Gerald Wagner

    @Oriol Thank you. I am looking forward to your post.

    @Brad Haack
    Could you please elaborate a bit more what the shortcomings are?

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    Brad Haack

    There is no way to create a route when offline. 

    No way to load GPX tracks and show them on the map.

    No GPX tracks or points manager.

    No way to transfer a route or track directly from the phone.

    The trail labels are too small.
    The trail widths are too thick, or in some cases, too thin.

    Current track is too thick

     

     

     

     

     

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    Oriol

    I believe It is really a downward that you cannot transfer files from the phone to the karo 2 unit without internet connection . In the same position are many apps for creating tracks that need to have internet connection too.
    I tnink You can create a path from scratch in the unit , but the maps don’t have contour lines. You solve that using for ej Komoot and then i they are linked HAVING internet connection on is ok , I think is the same for importing gpx files , you can also use dashboard hammerhead ….

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    Gerald Wagner

    I believe It is really a downward that you cannot transfer files from the phone to the karo 2 unit without internet connection 

    Yes, this seems to be a huge drawback.

     

    Thanks all for the feedback and inputs!

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    Gerald Wagner

    Is there some kind of roadmap what will be implemented software wise in the future? In particular regarding the mountain bike relevant features.

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