Connect my Specialized Turbo Levo with Karoo 2...

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    Charles Lambourne

    Hi Bryan, I have sideloaded both those apps onto my Karoo 2 so it is possible if you want. It would  just be nice if the Karoo could display the battery % natively,  as this is being broadcast by the bike over Ant+.

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    Alexander

    I’ve had my Karoo2 around a month now, so much better than my Garmin Edge 1000. 

    I’ve just taken delivery of an Orbea Rise without a display. Would absolutely love to be able get the E8’s battery level displayed on the Karoo2. I’m faced with either buying a £128 display, a Garmin watch or waiting out in the Hope you folks manage to integrate .

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    Mike Higgs

    New to E-biking (like, 24 hours new!) but have had the Karoo2 for about 6 months and LOVE it! To be able to see the battery levels and other info derived from the Shimano EP8-RS motor, as fitted to the Orbea Rise, would be awesome. I don’t normally have Bluetooth enabled on the Karoo2 to extend the battery life, but this feature would make that a no-brainer and I’d live with the battery drop. Come on Hammerhead…. Make it so!

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    Joshua Gunn

    Please, please, please implement this feature! Just need to see the battery level. Thanks. 

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    Scott Sanchez

    Hi. Just adding my voice to the list supporting ebike integration (especially % battery level and assist level). An Earlier post from Ali stated a probability that it could be introduced mid-2022. Hopefully, that’s still possible.

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    Kevin Hester

    Btw - I just posted on the hammerhead github asking if they would be interested in facilitating me writing this as a plugin.   If they are I'm happy to give it a shot.

    Link: https://github.com/hammerheadnav/karoo-sdk/issues/7


     

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    David Diskin

    Stewart - hope they take you up on your offer!

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    Charles Lambourne

    Hi Stewart, yes let's hope they take up your offer. Ali did say 8 months ago that this feature probably should be implemented by mid 2022, so we haven't got long to wait.

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    David S

    Let's get more folks to ask for this feature or they might want to keep postponing it.  I'm withholding one rating star on my Karoo2 until they implement E-bike integration.

     

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    Mike Higgs

    Shimano recently asked Hammerhead to remove the functionality to connect Karoo to the Shimano Di2 components via Bluetooth, as Hammerhead were recently purchased By SRAM, a direct competitor to Shimano. The chances of Hammerhead getting approval to allow the Karoo2 access to the Shimano EP8 motor now seem further away than ever. Hmph.

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    Simon Hill

    David I couldn't agree more with you, since I got my Karoo 2 to replace my Garmin Edge 1000 I've only managed to to get one other rider in my (now) 16 strong MTB Group (13 Turbo Levo's and 3 Cube's) to move over from Garmin. I'm in the tech world work wise and they all asked me to load up the Garmin side so that they can see the battery (3rd party booster's as well) remaining plus what riding profile they're in. They simply won't move until it's done!!!

    Equally 2 of us have the new 2022 Turbo Expert's with the new display but for fast technical rides it's too low down to be able to glance at whereas the Karoo 2 is out front so to speak and immediately visible. 

    This would be such a great thing for Hammerhead to introduce for Specilalized e-bikes and the Garmin implementation is fiddly at best.

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    Simon Hill

    ... and to to add if they could build in things like range remaining from calculating distance covered, speed etc that would be really great e.g. using as much e-bike data as possible so you have e-bike fields as options on the profiles. Cadence for example is a good step in the right direction but there could be so much more!!!

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    Kevin Hester

    Mike, The Shimano EP8 would also be supported by this feature (it also uses the standard ANT+ LEV ebike profile).  Which is an 'open' spec and not covered by any Shimano NDA.  The Shimano shifting that just got yanked was ANT (not ANT+) and a private protocol that according to dcrainmaker Hammerhead got access to via a license from Shimano (rather than clean-room reverse engineering).  So Shimano was able to be dicks and revoke the license.  They wouldn't have an ability to 'revoke' license in this case. 

    I'll wait to hear back from Hammerhead before making a LEV plugin using their SDK (hopefully they are already coding one and I won't need to ;-) )

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    Mike Higgs

    Thanks Stewart - that's reassuring to hear cos' it would be amazing to gain access to the 'stuff' Garmin users currently enjoy.

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    Kevin Hester

    Just to update: I talked with a kind Hammerhead eng on github - alas, the current Karoo SDK doesn't provide ANT access so I can't add LEV support as a plug-in.  I think people will need to keep hoping that it gets high enough in Hammerhead's queue to implement.  I did read the ANT+ LEV protocol docs and it looks super simple to implement when they eventually get around to it.

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    Antonio

    I would love to see an integration with specialized

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    Andrej B

    Good luck Antonio... but they just dont give a f...

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    Charles Lambourne

    Sad to say but I got to agree with Andrej..

    Still no E-bike integration & since the Sram acquisition now no more Di2. It will be interesting to see if I'll end up going Garmin in the next year or 2!

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    Antonio

    It's sad, because I bought Karoo2 as an alternative to Garmin, but from what you say, it's the worst thing I've ever done. No problem, it is sold second hand, and Karoo2's incompetence is written about on social media.

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    Gerard Fertig

    I have a creo and levo that I would like to see.

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    Robert Boyer

    Likewise.  The Creo/Levo integration is really an important feature - especially for (bike) Battery Level, I hope it's being worked on.

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    Shawn Young

    It seems some of you have managed to connect your K2 to your ebike to at least get cadence, speed and power (correct?). How did you do that?  I'm trying to connect K2 to the Shimano ec-7000 unit on my ebike.

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    Kevin Hester

    Hi Shawn,

    For my Specialized Vado SL, it natively supports the ANT+ speed, cadence, power and ebike profiles.  So the K2 'just worked' for everything but the added ebike profile.

    I'd say check what  standard/open ANT+ profiles the Shimano offers.

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    Richard

    It's about 2 years ago that this question came up, and I'm now also one the Specialized Creo Turbo owners that would like to see his battery% in the H2 display.

    @Hammerhead told here that this would take some time, but come on, 2 years !?!? when is this coming ? ( or did i missed something and is it availible but cannot find it ?)

     

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    Rick Pavek

    Does the Karoo support Orbea Rise? Orbea supports ANT+ LEV from MY2020 and beyond, but I am unable to get them to connect :( 

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    Ali

    Hi Rick, some Orbea bikes have Mahle X35+ motors that's ANT+ LEV and I see the RIse models have EP8 motor which is doesn't support ANT+ LEV.

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    Michael Block

    Are there any updates to this? I have a 2019 Turbo Levo; the Karoo 2 connects to power, cadence, and battery level % from the bike, but stubbornly shows remaining range as 1.0km. Is this able to be addressed?

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